Saturday, October 25, 2008

Please, make the pain go away.

What? Srsly? I have to suppress the urge to jab an ice pick into my ears every time I hear this woman speak.

No you ignorant, vapid twit, that is NOT the job of the VPOTUS. You will not be "in charge of" the United States Senate. Article 1 of the Constitution clearly states "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided." And that is something that Dick "Personification of Evil" Cheney has done only eight times. VPOTUS can preside over floor debate in the senate, but that is usually done by the president pro tempore and often done by first-term senators.

And for all of you out there who whine and bitch about how she is inaccurately portrayed by the main stream media, please, take off your tinfoil hats so you can hear better. The woman is just plain flat out stupid. We would be better served by Forrest Gump than this ignorant airhead.

h/t to the Angry Black Bitch for this one.


Evil Transport Lady said...

YES! Somebody who thinks she's a dumb bitch! I thought I was the only one!

rob rob the party slob said...

I read your comment on voodoo doc about military service in exchange for welfare... or something along those lines and thought I would agree with you.

Under the original outlines of our government the vice president's first job was to be the president of the senate. in fact the vice president used to be the person that received the second most number of votes.

I think you're unfairly critical of Gov. Palin for wanting to be involved in the senate. She, as the president of the senate would be allowed to introduce and be apart of the discussion concerning any legislation.

We just haven't (or anyone in the last hundred years) grown up with a VP that embraced their role as the president of the Senate. It's the only way for the VP to really be involved in legislation and I'm happy a VP hopeful wants to be more proactive in the government.

MedicMatthew said...

You misunderstood my criticism. I think it is noble that Ms. Palin wishes to be involved in the workings of our government in the potential capacity of President of the Senate as VPOTUS.
I am quite well aware that in the early days of our government the VP was not chosen as a running mate but was mere the 1st runner up in the election.
What pisses me off is Ms. Palin's blatant ignorance of the workings of our government. VPOTUS in the role of President of the Senate is not "in charge" of jack shit. She would merely be a participant in the senatorial process and only able to vote in the event of a tie.

scalpel said...

What part of preside don't you understand?

pre·side (pr-zd)
intr.v. pre·sid·ed, pre·sid·ing, pre·sides
1. To hold the position of authority; act as chairperson or president.
2. To possess or exercise authority or control.


MedicMatthew said...

Scalpel, don't call me an idiot.

In the early days of our government the Vice President in his role as president of the Senate did indeed wield some level of power and authority. Per order of the original code of Senate rules "the presiding officer exercised great power over the conduct of the body's proceedings. Rule XVI provided that 'every question of order shall be decided by the President [of the Senate], without debate; but if there be a doubt in his mind, he may call for a sense of the Senate.' Thus, contrary to later practice, the presiding officer was the sole judge of proper procedure and his rulings could not be turned aside by the full Senate without his assent."

Some framers of the constitution saw the vice presidents large involvement in the operations of the Senate to be in violation of the separation of powers doctrine- this being the reason for several of the framers refusal to sign the Constitution. As a result of this issue with the separation of powers doctrine the "Now, the vice president is usually seen as an integral part of a president's administration and presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions or when a tie-breaking vote may be needed."

And so, due to the structural changes that have taken place over the course of the history of our nation the notion of the Vice President being in charge of the US Senate is no longer the case as having the opportunity to be a moderator of parliamentary procedure does not imply that one has authority over an organization to enact change. In fact the responsibility of moderation of senate discussion is most often given to freshmen senators! In the current age and under the current code of the Senate the VP remains mostly a participant of the executive branch of government and is called upon to preside over the Senate only under two circumstances as stated above- ceremonial occasions or when a tie-breaking vote is needed.

*Citations from: Vice Presidents of the United States, 1789-1993, Mark O. Hatfield with the Senate Historical Office.